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June 29, 2008

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toujoursdan

There is a certain irony that a group of people who are embraced donatism, monatism and grosticism are calling us heretics.

But you are right. One of the great strengths and weaknesses of Anglicanism is we are supposed to be a group of like minded worshippers, not like minded believers. The great weakness is that our theology remains undeveloped and can be immature. The Anglican Church of Canada's St. Michael Report said that homosexuality is a matter of doctrine, but not "core" (as in creedal) doctrine and made the same distinction you do.

http://www2.anglican.ca/primate/ptc/smr.htm

But this is really more political than doctrinal. It's a power grab. Homosexuality is just the cover for it.

John Petty

I checked 2-3 accounts yesterday and all of them made a point of mentioning a "global south" push-back.

But "global"? Looks more like "central African" to me.

toujoursdan

Yes. "Global South" is one of their buzzwords.

Even much of Africa is apathetic about the whole thing. They don't like gays but have more important things to worry about. That's why you don't hear anything from Sudan, West Africa, Botswana, Tanzania, South Africa and Burundi. Most of Latin America (other than Argentina/Chile) is also apathetic so you don't hear much from Central America and the Caribbean (anymore). Mexico, Cuba and Brazil tend to be somewhat gay friendly. Most of South and East Asia isn't exactly gay friendly but don't think it's worth splitting over, so there isn't a lot of heat generated there either.

There are 38 national churches in the Anglican Communion. I believe that maybe 6-9 Primates are involved with this. Even many of their congregants are bored with the whole thing now.

It's just a silly numbers game. The right-winger Americans and Canadians know they have lost here - only able to steal less then 100-200 parishes from the nearly 10,000 in the US and Canada. That is why they enlisted the Africans in the first place. The right-wing Africans know they haven't rallied everyone to their side either - but using "Global South" makes them sound big.

The 3 year attempted coup d'eglise seems to be failing. They weren't able to take over the Anglican Communion so carved their own little pure space with GAFCON. I think this defacto split will remain in place until the heat settles, but that may not be a bad thing.

John Petty

I read somewhere that Harold Ahmonson was there. I'm not sure I'm spelling that right, but he's the guy who goes around trying to stir up the conservative factions in the various denominations.

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