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September 30, 2009



It sounds like he took a play from the Anglican schismatics. According to them we ceased to be a church once Gene Robinson was elected.


But it no longer holds in the ELCA. In a naked power play by the privileged—the few allowed some actual voice in the proceedings—this mighty consensus fell to a bogus, prefabricated ambiguity crafted to disallow it.

I should also add that the same abuse was hurled toward our General Convention, as if they were some body that engaged in a conspiracy and "imposed" new doctrine on the little people, instead of represented them. It reminds me a bit of of some of the teabaggers rants over the 2008 Election who can't come to grips with the reality that the ground has shifted underneath them.

Regarding the Romans 1:26-27 passage, the early Christians (Augustine, Clement of Alexandria, Anastasios) used it to condemn non-procreative heterosexual sex, not homosexual sex. Christianity's biggest pagan rival at the time was the Attis/Cybele cult (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybele) whose most devoted male followers ritually castrated themselves, wore female clothing to transcend gender and serviced male and female clients in ecstatic ceremonies in the temples. The unnatural lusts/acts Paul mentioned may refer to genderbending sex acts rather than homosexual. See: http://www.jeramyt.org/papers/paulcybl.html#i1

John Petty

Dan, thanks for the tip RE: Cybele cult. I'll check it out.

Also, have you ever noticed that the standard complaint among conservatives when they lose any election is that somehow the "elites" manipulated the vote? They can't imagine a majority that doesn't support them.


I used to be one of Jim's fans -- I sat at his feet for a few years in St. Paul. But when he and Forde sent out a letter to our rostered leaders, declaring that the ELCA was in "confessional crisis" because we were getting too close to the Episcopal Church and its godless love for Bishops (mostly, I thought, because Seminary Professors weren't able to push their weight around like they used to in the old ALC), I began to see him in a completely different light. Now he's at it again, claiming this "confessional crisis" business. I wonder what the back story actually is on this one...


Get it over with and ex-communicate this nutcase!!

John Petty

Despite the avuncular exterior, he strikes me as mostly being mad about something.

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