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March 19, 2010

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gs

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John Petty

thanks

von gunten

i've always found it humorous that Braaten, as well as his good friend Pannenberg, were in their youth the radical liberals of the sixties.

as for merging with moonies and mormons, that's like saying the next step is beastiality. give me a break.

btw. hi, john.

John Petty

Yeah, hi back. I don't want to speculate about other peoples' fantasies, but some of them seem pretty weird.

Jason Ramay

The phrase "we are a democratically governed church" in the last paragraph of your post says everything one needs to know. Unfortunately, I am unsurprised to find yet another claim that something other than Christ - in this case a politically correct quota - is governing the ELCA. Our church is now just a pale, whitebread, shrinking loaf without salt or leaven. And, as Nestingen has said, about to get much whiter - when our brothers and sisters south of the border and south of the equator decide that our liberal protestantism has totally ceded its calling and leave in droves (cf. the Anglican/Episcopalian fallout). As for the claim that mainline liberal protestantism is the only religious tradition in the world to honor the dignity and full humanity of homosexuals, this is simply false. Honoring dignity and full humanity does not mean abandoning standards or condoning what the rudderless PC elite says it good and right, any more than honoring the full humanity of my children means letting them do whatever they want. Finally, appealing to currency as justification for the decisions at the assembly is just as wrong as appealing to the old, white, male deadness of Braaten's allies as proof of their error. Of course, not every position taken by a secular, pc liberal elitist is ipso facto wrong, any more than a position taken by a defender of 2 millenia of tradition is ipso facto right. But that begs the question about the decisions now fatefully made: "By what authority?"

Thanks for weighing in!

Jason Ramay

John Petty

Obviously, we disagree. I do appreciate your taking the time to share your views.

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